Posts by The Fall Guy

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Is the Watchtower Organization in accordance with God's requirements?

by Listener in

beroean pickets has another excellant article presented on their website.

it is written by tadua.

in light of the russian ban there are many valid points made.

The Fall Guy

Pale Emperor highlighted another corrupt and evil teaching of the ungodly W.T.B.T.S./CCoJW in this topic:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6204697381699584/my-reverse-shunning-letter-my-mother

He cited this reference from the "Shepherd the Flock of God" which effectively tells J.W.'s that "God's" [the org's] wonderful disfellowshipping restrictions only apply to those who do not live in the same home as their "loyal" family members. Virtually all family contact is only forbidden by God when a d/f'd individual lives in a different building!

Page 116, par. 6. "If members of the congregation are known to have undue association with disfellowshipped or disassociated relatives who are not in the household, elders should counsel and reason with those members of the congregation from the Scriptures. Review with them information from the "God's Love book, pages 207-208; The Watchtower of April 15 1988, pages 26-30; or the article "Display Christian Loyalty When a Relative Is Disfellowshipped” in the August 2002 Our Kingdom Ministry. If it is clear that a Christian is violating the spirit of the disfellowshipping decree in this regard and does not respond to counsel, it may be that he would not qualify for congregation privileges, which require one to be exemplary. He would not be dealt with judicially unless there is persistent spiritual association or he openly criticizes the disfellowshipping decision."

This "demon inspired" teaching hasn't dawned on very many J.W.'s yet. It's only forum topics like this which can encourage them to take a step back and question things for themselves.

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WT Library being edited

by berrygerry in

i thought that wt would have started doing this, but i have not noticed any posts before.. can anyone confirm (post is from fb)?.

so i have been looking up these different articles to read for myself...one problem.the last time we got a disc was 2015 and i used my mil's disc to down load it to my computer.

they did a update to it last year over the internet, the program updated it's self.

The Fall Guy

Hold on to your older editions of the WT CD ROM - they will be so damning in the future!!!

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Got gas pump witnessed this morning.

by Darkknight757 in

so on our way to hospital today i see a car load of jehovah's pull up to a pump a row over.

i thought to myself, "not now!!

" we were running late to nicu and of course these dummy's take this moment to drive up to give us some good news.

The Fall Guy

Ask some J.W.'s how long they've been "in the truth."

For all those who say they have been J.W.'s more than 5 years, firmly remind them that what was "truth" then is no longer "truth" now. The "body of truth" they had to study & accept in order to qualify for their dedication & baptism, was actually gangrenous at that time (and prior!) with lies/inaccuracies/conjecture, and had to be substituted with reversed truths - not enlightened ones.

Or simply ask them, "Who or what told you that God did not choose the Mormon Quorum of 12 Prophets, the Roman Catholic Church's Pope, or the Archbishop of Canterbury as his agent/s, but instead, opted for the WTBTS of Pennsylvania?"

Scriptural proof would be a good place to start!

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Weekly Scripture Twist - aka the Watchtower Study

by doubtfull1799 in

“more than material assistance, refugees need spiritual and emotional support.

(matt.

4:4) elders can help by obtaining literature in the language of the refugees and by helping them contact brothers who speak their language.

The Fall Guy

Yes, the good Samaritan simply took care of the injured man's spiritual needs, because he could count the time on his monthly report.

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new guy random thoughts

by road to nowhere in

it is quite a step to register, still in.

old family in, good marriage in.

i dont know exactly how much to say and not let too much out to get caught.

The Fall Guy

Welcome RTN. Just take things nice and slow and be careful not to let those around you see that you are awakening. We all know how they will react and what the eventual outcome will be, if you do.

You can be encouraged by researching on this site and learning from other contributors. Wish you well.

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Stonewalling and the Governing Body

by UnshackleTheChains in

why do the gb stonewall individuals with legitimate questions.

for example, they refuse to speak to investagative journalists like trey bundy, unless they happen to get caught somewhere walking about in the street by chance.. i remember the panorama documentary 'suffer the little children' where the presenter tried to arrange an interview with one of the gb.

i can't remember if the gb either refused or simply didn't reply.

The Fall Guy

Welcome AMdeT - It's good that you have "independent thinking" and decided to actually question what the WTBTS's rulers declare is absolute truth - until they change it.

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Time for a new type/anti-type, G.B? 2033 is the new 1975!

by The Fall Guy in

a well known scripture says, "however, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with jehovah as a thousand years......." (2 peter 3:8) .

using this divine calculation of time, let's apply it to a prophetic type/anti-type scenario:.

matthew 16:21 says, ".....the christ would suffer and rise from among the dead on the third day...", while john 21:1 reveals that it was at the very beginning of that third day - "on the first day of the week, mary magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and she saw that the stone had already been taken away from the tomb.

The Fall Guy

@ Rub a Dub - sorry if it looked to be some kind of logic to you. It wasn't intended to be.

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Time for a new type/anti-type, G.B? 2033 is the new 1975!

by The Fall Guy in

a well known scripture says, "however, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with jehovah as a thousand years......." (2 peter 3:8) .

using this divine calculation of time, let's apply it to a prophetic type/anti-type scenario:.

matthew 16:21 says, ".....the christ would suffer and rise from among the dead on the third day...", while john 21:1 reveals that it was at the very beginning of that third day - "on the first day of the week, mary magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and she saw that the stone had already been taken away from the tomb.

The Fall Guy

:) Just demonstrating how anyone (the org!) can snatch out some of scriptures and get the "obedient" to swallow it down.

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Time for a new type/anti-type, G.B? 2033 is the new 1975!

by The Fall Guy in

a well known scripture says, "however, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with jehovah as a thousand years......." (2 peter 3:8) .

using this divine calculation of time, let's apply it to a prophetic type/anti-type scenario:.

matthew 16:21 says, ".....the christ would suffer and rise from among the dead on the third day...", while john 21:1 reveals that it was at the very beginning of that third day - "on the first day of the week, mary magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and she saw that the stone had already been taken away from the tomb.

The Fall Guy

A well known scripture says, "However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years......." (2 Peter 3:8)

Using this divine calculation of time, let's apply it to a prophetic type/anti-type scenario:

Matthew 16:21 says, ".....the Christ would suffer and rise from among the dead on the third day...", while John 21:1 reveals that it was at the very beginning of that third day - "On the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and she saw that the stone had already been taken away from the tomb."

By the end of the second day Jesus had chosen his disciples, and on the third day provided them with conclusive proof that their faith in him was totally justified - by performing his first ever miracle. (John 1 - 2:2)

At Psalm 110:1, Christ is prophetically told by God (clearly after his ascension to heaven) to sit and wait. Christ's death and resurrection occurred approximately 1,984 years ago, indicating that in roughly 16 years from now, (2033) we will reach the end of the "two days" (2000 years) and see the beginning of the "third day." At Hosea 6:2 there's this prophecy - "He will revive us after two days. On the third day he will raise us up, And we will live before him."

Why not run this conjecture up the flag-pole and see how it blows in the wind? It's not any more ridiculous than your predecessors' attempts to prophesy "the end", and you never know, it might trigger a repetition of the pre-1975 increases, namely converts, money, and pioneers! :)

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The point at which you think this may not be the truth

by LevelThePlayingField in

i remember one of the nights that i found out the truth wasn't the truth, that is after finding out about the united nations, i remember riding my bicycle from like 1am till 5am in the city night.

it was rather chilly, maybe about 55-60 degrees and i was playing pink floyd's dark side of the moon album in my earbuds.

just riding and riding, not really tiring because of the thought that 7 men in brooklyn had duped me, duped me for like 20 plus years.

The Fall Guy

1. Does your religious group have an elevated hierarchy?

2. Does that hierarchy claim to have been divinely selected by God to lead you?

3. Does your hierarchy require that you finance their lifestyle - rather than earning a living for themselves?

4. Does your hierarchy demand that their "understandings" must be obeyed - despite your own reasoning?

If it looks, walks, and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck. [cult]